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by **First Chairman** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:40 pm

With the announced tentative date being taken for the HSNCT, the NSC is now tentatively scheduled for May 23-24 weekend, which is Memorial Day weekend. GMU convocation occurs the weekend before. I want to be sure that this is okay with all the PACE staff since this is obviously rather short-notice, plus I am checking the availability of rooms though it won't be obvious since this is move-in/first-weekend of class at Mason. Classroom reservations is a bit busy.

by **swwFCqb** » Fri May 15, 2009 6:42 pm

Who's the main man in charge of this tournament? I need to discuss something with that person.

by **JackGlerum** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:24 pm

Silby.

by **Grams's Go-Go Boots** » Thu May 21, 2009 10:56 pm

Be careful getting there, people.

by **Salt Lake Dream** » Thu May 21, 2009 11:15 pm

Is there a roster to fill out, like last year? http://www.hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=5679&

by **Down and out in Quintana Roo** » Thu May 21, 2009 11:35 pm

That e-mail was already sent to coaches. The link was this: http://silby.wufoo.com/forms/2009-pace-nsc-rostering/

by **Salt Lake Dream** » Thu May 21, 2009 11:37 pm

Thanks. I hadn't heard about it.

by **First Chairman** » Fri May 22, 2009 10:21 am

Tweeting during the NSC should not include any suggestion of answers (right, wrong, or funny). Scores however are encouraged for tweeting. Please use the #NSC2009 tag in your messages (someone else took #NSC09). Followers can search twitter for #NSC2009 posts easily which should hopefully appear at http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23NSC2009 .

by **ether a go-go** » Fri May 22, 2009 10:55 am

Is the restriction because the questions are being reused somewhere else or because you're worried about one room running an hour behind another room?

by **Bad Boy Bill** » Fri May 22, 2009 11:08 am

That definitely happened last year.

I saw round 12 played in the top bracket, and then got to see my B team play the same packet in consolation.

by **ether a go-go** » Fri May 22, 2009 11:23 am

I'm just asking so that students know whether or not they can publicly comment on the questions Saturday or Sunday night.

by **Dan Greenstein** » Fri May 22, 2009 5:35 pm

Shcool wrote:I'm just asking so that students know whether or not they can publicly comment on the questions Saturday or Sunday night.

Rather than assume or attempt to ascertain a time after which you may discuss the questions, it is best to wait until the "all clear" has been given from the tournament director before you launch discussion. This all clear will likely come in the form of a PACE NSC Question Discussion thread.

by **BuzzerZen** » Sat May 23, 2009 7:10 am

Live stats for the 2009 PACE NSC on Taft.

by **BuzzerZen** » Sat May 23, 2009 5:53 pm

Your playoff brackets:

Championship playoffs

Didi
Brookwood
Dorman A
Georgetown Day School A
James Monroe
Rancho Bernardo
Southside A
State College A
Stow Munroe Falls

Gogo
Chaska
Detroit Catholic Central
Hunter A
Maggie Walker A
Thomas Jefferson A
Walter Johnson
Walton
Wilmington Charter A

Consolation 1

Pozzo
Bellaire A
Carbondale
Dorman B
Gonzaga
Loyola Academy A
New Trier
Thomas Jefferson B
Walt Whitman

Lucky
Chattahoochee
Dunbar A
Dunbar B
Hunter B
Kellenberg A
Raleigh Charter
Rockford Auburn
duPont Manual

Consolation 2

Hamm
Caesar Rodney
Cosby
Hoggard
Kellenberg B
Maggie Walker B
Saint Viator
Southside B
Wilmington Charter B

Clov
Bellaire B
Central
Dorman C
Half Hollow Hills
Seton Hall
Shady Side Academy
State College B
Wilmington Charter C

Consolation 3

Nagg
Blake
Bridgeport
Eastside
Georgetown Day School B
Lewis County
Peninsula
Robinson
Rocky Mount

Nell
Breathitt County
Johnston County
Loyola Academy B
Northmont
Pikeville
Thomas Jefferson C
Tippecanoe
Winfield

by **jonpin** » Sun May 24, 2009 12:32 pm

Between people begging for us not to refresh Taft and the chat having stopped, I'm thinking the network may have cut out again. Either that or everyone's at lunch. Either way, here's what's happened in the top playoff brackets:

Didi: State College 6-1, Georgetown 6-1, Stow-Munroe 4-3, Dorman 3-4, Rancho 3-4, James Monroe 3-4, Brookwood 2-5, Southside 1-6
Gogo: Wilm Charter 6-1, Maggie Walker 6-1, Hunter 5-2, Walt Johnson 5-2, T Jeff 2-5, Walton 2-5, Det Catholic 1-6, Chaska 1-6.

All ties are broken by playoff points. SC lost to Rancho, Georgetown lost to SC. WC lost to WJ, Maggie Walker lost to WC. Each group will play one game which is functionally a semifinal.

by **dtaylor4** » Sun May 24, 2009 12:41 pm

Yeah, we're at lunch. Round 15 starts at 1:05.

by **BuzzerZen** » Sun May 24, 2009 1:33 pm

The 2009 PACE National Scholastics Championship finals will be played by the Charter School of Wilmington's A team and State College Area High School's A team. Our live coverage will include question content this time since the finals will be the only game going on. We expect the finals round to begin between 2:30 and 3:00 PM EDT.

by **Grams's Go-Go Boots** » Sun May 24, 2009 3:41 pm

Charter School of Wilmington is your 2009 PACE NSC Champions.

by **Emily Krok** » Sun May 24, 2009 4:06 pm

For what it's worth, "Tim Yee" from Blake from all games today is actually Alex from Blake.

by **cdcarter** » Sun May 24, 2009 4:30 pm

Third place is for GDS, 4th is Maggie Walker.

by **Down and out in Quintana Roo** » Sun May 24, 2009 7:45 pm

Congratulations Charter - and State College too - and everybody for a great weekend. That was an exciting finals game. I'm glad i got to help out scorekeeping (and eventually moderating about 9-10 matches) and meet dozens of wonderful people that i'd been looking forward to meeting for a long time. Longer post tomorrow or something when i have time and energy.

by **David Riley** » Sun May 24, 2009 7:59 pm

I agree--quality questions and an enjoyable tournament with an exciting final! It was also nice to meet Fred, Dr. Chuck and others, matching the faces behind the names on this board!

by **Edward Powers** » Sun May 24, 2009 9:38 pm

A great tournament final---down to the last toss-up which SC won!!!---and then missed the decisive bonuses!?!?

Anyone have any idea what the topic of the final bonuses were that a team as outstanding as SC would miss them? What a heartbreaker for State, and what exhilarating steals for Charter. I followed on the internet and was on the edge of my seat, since SC made a furious rally to bring it down to the last question. And what a great finale for Charter & for PACE---one of the truly great games.

And, is there anywhere we can find out placements for teams #5-#64---all played a game 15 with their paired opposite in the other 8 team bracket within each set of 16 teams, did they not?

Any help on Round 15 scores would be appreciated.

Ed Powers
Coach
SJHS Academic Team
Metuchen, NJ

by **Kuandian Manchu Autonomous County** » Sun May 24, 2009 9:50 pm

I think Mike Bentley will have the final match on his podcast, if you subscribe to that or wish to subscribe to that. In the meantime, if I heard correctly, it was Henry III/De Monfort's parliment/Louis IX. All stats should be up on Taft at some point in the near future.
EDIT "it" being the final bonus.

by **BuzzerZen** » Sun May 24, 2009 9:53 pm

Edward Powers wrote:And, is there anywhere we can find out placements for teams #5-#64---all played a game 15 with their paired opposite in the other 8 team bracket within each set of 16 teams, did they not?

They did indeed. I will be compiling this information and posting it in some form within the next few days, as putting it all into Taft would have been a bit awkward.

by **The Atom Strikes!** » Sun May 24, 2009 9:54 pm

Anti-Climacus wrote:I think Mike Bentley will have the final match on his podcast, if you subscribe to that or wish to subscribe to that. In the meantime, if I heard correctly, it was Henry III/De Monfort's parliment/Louis IX. All stats should be up on Taft at some point in the near future.
EDIT "it" being the final bonus.

No, it was Longshanks/Model Parilament/Louis IX

by **hangfromthefloor** » Sun May 24, 2009 9:59 pm

I'd just like to point out a minor error in the number of games played by each team member on Walter Johnson (and possibly on other schools as well): Both Daichi Ueda and Kuo-Kai Chin played 14 games as it correctly states, but Andi Shahu and Ophir Lifshitz played just 4 games, and Ashu Joshi and Dana Gordin played only 10.

by **t-bar** » Mon May 25, 2009 10:33 am

hangfromthefloor wrote:I'd just like to point out a minor error in the number of games played by each team member on Walter Johnson (and possibly on other schools as well): Both Daichi Ueda and Kuo-Kai Chin played 14 games as it correctly states, but Andi Shahu and Ophir Lifshitz played just 4 games, and Ashu Joshi and Dana Gordin played only 10.

If I'm reading the stats right, they show 14 games played for everyone, but the number of tossups heard is correctly scaled to reflect how many games each person actually played. Ophir's 140 TUH do indicate that he played 5 games, though, so his inclusion in the Dorman C game may be a typo.

by **Down and out in Quintana Roo** » Mon May 25, 2009 3:31 pm

Are the stats going to be finalized any time soon, with the final "placement" games and all the playoff finals games entered?

by **Kouign Amann** » Mon May 25, 2009 3:33 pm

Caesar Rodney HS wrote:Are the stats going to be finalized any time soon, with the final "placement" games and all the playoff finals games entered?

BuzzerZen wrote:
Edward Powers wrote:And, is there anywhere we can find out placements for teams #5-#64---all played a game 15 with their paired opposite in the other 8 team bracket within each set of 16 teams, did they not?

They did indeed. I will be compiling this information and posting it in some form within the next few days, as putting it all into Taft would have been a bit awkward.

by **Down and out in Quintana Roo** » Mon May 25, 2009 3:36 pm

Reading skills.... i lack them.

by **Kuandian Manchu Autonomous County** » Thu May 28, 2009 4:19 pm

Will the academic all-star round be made availabe along with the rest of the set?

by **Sir Thopas** » Thu May 28, 2009 4:26 pm

Anti-Climacus wrote:Will the academic all-star round be made availabe along with the rest of the set?

That was just the second packet for the bracket advantaged final.

by **master15625** » Thu May 28, 2009 5:13 pm

Sir Thopas wrote:
Anti-Climacus wrote:Will the academic all-star round be made availabe along with the rest of the set?

That was just the second packet for the bracket advantaged final.

Do you know where the packets are online right now? Or are you just saying from what they said?

by **rchschem** » Fri May 29, 2009 11:56 am

Edit: Never mind - problem solved. It has nothing to do with quiz bowl.

Does anyone know a Whitney Shingleton who might be associated with anyone who might have gone to PACE? Or is involved in quiz bowl at all? A Raleigh Charter coach found a check from this person in one of our cars and we are trying to figure out what it might be for.

Thanks for any information - you can contact me off list if you know anything. egrunden AT raleighcharterhs DOT org

Eric

by **BroNi** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:49 am

Being especially curious, and waiting for over a week, I like to get the ball rolling on the final crossover games that haven't been posted yet. I think I have this right, so here goes....

For 27th and 28th place, New Trier (IL) 300 def. Kellenberg A (NY) 265.
For 41st and 42nd place, Kellenberg B (NY) 275 def. Seton Hall (NJ) 225.

Anyone else want to contribute their crossover games?

by **Emily Krok** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:04 am

For 51st, Blake defeats Robinson, 160-175, or something rather close to that.

by **Down and out in Quintana Roo** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:12 am

For 45th and 46th... Caesar Rodney beat Bellaire B 250-175.

by **BuzzerZen** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:27 am

I'll start putting the cross-bracket results into this post as I get hold of it and compile it. I don't seem to have any of the championship bracket stuff yet. For now, the straight-up rankings from 17th-64th:

17 - Chattahoochee (Pozzo/Lucky champ)
18 - Rockford Auburn
19- Whitman
20 - Gonzaga
21 - Dorman B
22 - Hunter B
23 - Carbondale
24 - Dunbar B
25- Bellaire A
26 - Raleigh Charter
27 - New Trier
28 - Kellenberg A
29 - Loyola Academy A
30 - duPont Manual
31 - Thomas Jefferson B
32 - Dunbar A
33 - Cosby (Hamm/Clov champ)
34 - Hoggard
35 - State College B
36 - Half Hollow Hills
37 - Maggie Walker B
38 - Dorman C
39 - Shady Side
40 - Southside B
41 - Kellenberg B
42 - Seton Hall
43 - Wilmington Charter B
44 - Wilmington Charter C
45 - Caesar Rodney
46 - Bellaire B
47 - St. Viator
48 - Mpls. Central
49 - Northmont (Nagg/Nell champ)
50 - Thomas Jefferson C
51 - Blake
52 - Robinson
53 - Lewis County/St. Anselm's scabs
54 - Tippecanoe
55 - "Eastside" scabs
56 - Loyola B
57 - Winfield
58 - Georgetown Day B
59 - Peninsula
60 - "Pikeville" scabs
61 - Rocky Mount
62 - Breathitt Co.
63 - Bridgeport
64 - Johnston Co.

by **Kouign Amann** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:29 am

BuzzerZen wrote:53 - Lewis County/St. Anselm's scabs

I'd say that's pretty good for being stuck with a 0-10 handicap before we even showed up :grin:

by **Down and out in Quintana Roo** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:57 am

Prof.Whoopie wrote:
BuzzerZen wrote:53 - Lewis County/St. Anselm's scabs

I'd say that's pretty good for being stuck with a 0-10 handicap before we even showed up

It really is. You guys are going to be pretty freakin good next year, if you didn't realize. But you're good dudes, so except for when you play us, we'll be rooting for you.

by **Grams's Go-Go Boots** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:30 pm

I'm working on getting this list up on the website, but here's the complete, finalized order of finish for the NSC.

1st - Charter School of Wilmington's first team
2nd - State College Area High School's first team
3rd - Georgetown Day School's first team
4th - Maggie L. Walker Governor's School for Government and International Studies's first team
5th - Hunter College High School's first team
6th - Stow-Munroe Falls High School
7th - Walter Johnson High School
8th - Paul M. Dorman High School's first team
9th - Rancho Bernardo High School
10th - Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology's first team
11th - Walton High School
12th - James Monroe High School
13th - Detroit Catholic Central High School
14th - Brookwood High School
15th - Chaska High School
16th - Southside High School's first team
17th - Chattahoochee High School
18th - Rockford Auburn High School
19th - Walt Whitman High School
20th - Gonzaga College High School
21st - Paul M. Dorman High School's second team
22nd - Hunter College High School's second team
23rd - Carbondale High School
24th - Paul Laurence Dunbar High School's second team
25th - Bellaire High School's first team
26th - Raleigh Charter High School
27th - New Trier High School
28th - Kellenberg Memorial High School's first team
29th - Loyola Academy's first team
30th - duPont Manual High School
31st - Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology's second team
32nd - Paul Laurence Dunbar High School's first team
33rd - Cosby High School
34th - John T. Hoggard High School
35th - State College Area High School's second team
36th - Half Hollow Hills West High School
37th - Maggie L. Walker Governor's School for Government and International Studies's second team
38th - Paul M. Dorman High School's third team
39th - Shady Side Academy
40th - Southside High School's second team
41st - Kellenberg Memorial High School's second team
42nd - Seton Hall Preparatory School
43rd - Charter School of Wilmington's second team
44th - Charter School of Wilmington's third team
45th - Caesar Rodney High School
46th - Bellaire High School's second team
47th - Saint Viator High School
48th - Central High School
49th - Northmont High School
50th - Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology's third team
51th - Blake High School
52nd - James W. Robinson, Jr. Secondary School
53rd - Lewis County High School
note: Lewis County High School left after their seven preliminary rounds and forfeited the first three rounds of the playoffs. They were replaced by a scab team for the final four playoff rounds.
54th - Tippecanoe High School
55th - Scab team #1
note: Eastside High School was scheduled to participate in the event but were not able to attend
56th - Loyola Academy's second team
57th - Winfield High School
58th - Georgetown Day School's second team
59th - Peninsula High School
60th - Scab team #2
note: Pikeville High School was scheduled to participate in the event but were not able to attend
61st - Rocky Mount High School
62nd - Breathitt County High School
63rd - Bridgeport High School
64th - Johnston County High School

ninja edit: fixed ordinal numbers

by **JackGlerum** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:29 pm

FredMorlan wrote:38th - Paul M. Dorman High School's third team

Sick.

by **Self-incompatibility in plants** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:45 pm

24th - Paul Laurence Dunbar High School's second team
32nd - Paul Laurence Dunbar High School's first team

Out of curiosity, how did this happen?

by **Red-necked Phalarope** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:00 am

ImaPC wrote:
24th - Paul Laurence Dunbar High School's second team
32nd - Paul Laurence Dunbar High School's first team

Out of curiosity, how did this happen?

Dunbar A was generally stronger statistically, but they lost 4 playoff matches by a combined total of 105 points--including a 15-point game against Dunbar B.

by **Sulawesi Myzomela** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:06 am

Dunbar was really deep this year. Simply put, they had two of the top 4 (could argue top 3) teams in the state of KY this year, and will probably be pretty good next year (on a national level) with the people they have coming back from the top two teams. If Dunbar A faltered even a little bit, Dunbar B was good enough to beat them out.

by **Huang** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:33 am

Inter et Inter wrote:
ImaPC wrote:
24th - Paul Laurence Dunbar High School's second team
32nd - Paul Laurence Dunbar High School's first team

Out of curiosity, how did this happen?

Dunbar A was generally stronger statistically, but they lost 4 playoff matches by a combined total of 105 points--including a 15-point game against Dunbar B.

True but one of Dunbar B's players, who contributed a relatively solid 37.78 ppg, was sick for 5 of our games. If he were present, I believe the statistical gap between the two teams would've narrowed by alot.

by **Self-incompatibility in plants** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:18 pm

Dunbar was really deep this year. Simply put, they had two of the top 4 (could argue top 3) teams in the state of KY this year, and will probably be pretty good next year (on a national level) with the people they have coming back from the top two teams. If Dunbar A faltered even a little bit, Dunbar B was good enough to beat them out.

Thanks. That really is quite impressive.

by **Nuclear Densometer Test** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:26 am

Does anyone know when the audio-recordings of the PACE rounds will be up?

by **Mike Bentley** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:58 am

Dark Ages: Fae wrote:Does anyone know when the audio-recordings of the PACE rounds will be up?

Whoops, I thought I had lost these by not backing them up when I reformatted my new laptop, but it looks like I was indeed smart enough to upload these before I did that. I'll edit them and post these today.

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