Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

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Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:11 pm

This is an announcement for the Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV at Loyola Academy, Wilmette, Illinois, on January 10, 2010. We will be using NAQT set IS-87A. Entry fee is $65 per team. For further information, email me at driley@loy.org.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby jonah » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:50 pm

It should probably be clarified — unless it has changed from editions I, II, and III — that this is a frosh/soph tournament only.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:55 pm

Yes, still frosh/soph....and to further clarify, frosh/soph, not "jv".
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:10 pm

Field update as of 12/11:

Loyola (2)
Maine South
Carbondale (2)
Latin
Fremd (2)
Leyden
Barrington (2)
Wheaton-Warrenville
Maine East
Lisle
New Trier
Auburn (2)
Stevenson
St. Viator (2)
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:45 pm

Field has been updated and is tentatively closed. I might expand to 24 teams pending demand, etc. Registration will then close on December 15, and then requests for B teams will be honored in the order in which they were received.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Chametz » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:42 pm

Out of curiosity, has our B-team request been received, and if so, how high is it in priority? I'm really hoping for the opportunity to expose this year's freshman to a higher standard of quiz bowl.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:17 am

Unfortunately, it doesn't appear likely.

I am giving preference to single teams up until Dec 15. After that, I will fill slots with B teams up to a maximum of 24 teams but there are about eight or nine teams ahead of you. :sad: I'll keep you posted if anything changes.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:50 pm

Ben, I was mistaken--if I do expand and allow second teams, Carbondale is 4th in line for a B team.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Secretary of Bobcats » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:16 pm

Chametz wrote:Out of curiosity, has our B-team request been received, and if so, how high is it in priority? I'm really hoping for the opportunity to expose this year's freshman to a higher standard of quiz bowl.


Well, if you really want to expose them to good quiz bowl, you should sincerely consider letting them go over you, as they would benefit MUCH MUCH more from this than yourself.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Chametz » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:34 pm

MoCity02 wrote:Well, if you really want to expose them to good quiz bowl, you should sincerely consider letting them go over you, as they would benefit MUCH MUCH more from this than yourself.


Hmm... I'll take this into consideration. We're already missing a sophomore for this tournament, but a lot of our freshman are having problems with commitment and many of them still prefer one-liners. I remember how great it was for me to see what good quizbowl looked like when I was a freshman, I think it would be good for them too. I have a speech tournament that day anyway, this would make my schedule less complicated. I'll have to think about this one.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:48 pm

Field update as of 12/11:

Loyola (2)
Maine South
Carbondale (2)
Latin
Fremd (2)
Leyden
Barrington (2)
Wheaton-Warrenville
Maine East
Lisle
New Trier
Auburn (2)
Stevenson
St. Viator (2)
OPRF
Marist
Homewood-Flossmoor
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Secretary of Bobcats » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:28 am

Bumped to remind teams to get their rosters in before next Saturday.

Also, with the addition of Champaign Centennial & Stevenson B and dropping of Loyola B, the field update as of 1/8:
Auburn (2)
Barrington (2)
Carbondale (2)
Champaign Centennial
Fremd (2)
Homewood-Flossmoor
Latin
Leyden
Lisle
Loyola
Maine East
Maine South
Marist
New Trier
OPRF
St. Viator (2)
Stevenson (2)
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:31 am

Correction: Loyola B is in and Stevenson B is still on the wait list.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:33 am

Mea culpa: both Stevenson B and Loyola B are in, Wheaton-Warrenville B is on the wait list.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Moving Day » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:50 pm

Just e-mailed you.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:53 pm

Got it and forwarded them to Nola.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:45 pm

Field update as of 1/8:


Loyola (2)
Maine South
Carbondale (2)
Latin
Fremd (2)
Leyden
Barrington (2)
Wheaton-Warrenville
Maine East
Lisle
New Trier
Auburn
Stevenson (2)
St. Viator (2)
OPRF
Marist
Homewood-Flossmoor
Champaign Centennial
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Frater Taciturnus » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:31 pm

Hey people who I think are at this tournament should stop tweeting answers as this set isn't cleared.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Dan-Don » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:52 pm

If anyone is eagerly waiting for results, we've been delayed by a fire alarm.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby jdeliverer » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:17 pm

Stevenson won, with Auburn runner-up. I'll let someone post the rest of the results, since I don't remember all of them.

I thought the questions were great for this level - most questions were gettable by the end while still working in enough of the varsity-level canon to keep it academic. Moderators did a great job overall and (aside from the fire drill) things went very smoothly.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Moving Day » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:40 pm

Stevenson A won with a 5-0 record. There was no advantaged final, rather there was a 5-way circle of death between Auburn A, Barrington A, Wheaton Warrenville South A, Loyola A, and Oak Park-River Forest, as the all finished the championship bracket with 2-3 records. Based on total points per game in the playoffs, Auburn A was declared the 2nd place finisher, Barrington A the 3rd place team, and Wheaton Warrenville South A the 4th place team. Outside of Stevenson, it was an incredibly balanced championship pool, IMO. Champaign Centennial, the only team to defeat Stevenson A today, swept the consolation pool to finish the day with a 9-1 overall record, yet they missed the cut for the championship round due to PPB. I'll let Laird give his explanation of how that could have happened...
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby jonah » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:24 pm

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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Crazy Andy Watkins » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:04 pm

Could you group the morning stats in the morning brackets? Right now the morning stats have teams grouped into their playoff brackets.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Jane Fairfax » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:24 pm

That's an awfully strange scenario: Stevenson gets beat by about 300 then sweeps the rest of the field...
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Your Cup of Robust Tea » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:40 pm

I'd love to know more about Champaign Centennial and this Chris Olsen.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Secretary of Bobcats » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:43 pm

Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:Could you group the morning stats in the morning brackets? Right now the morning stats have teams grouped into their playoff brackets.


Yeah, Jonah hi-jacked my file so he doesn't have that. Prelim results with everybody in their right brackets can be found here

EDIT: After some things (such as repeat games) have been fixed, stats can be found in the following places:
http://results.scobo.net/Loyola/Davey_Prelims
http://results.scobo.net/Loyola/Davey_Playoffs
http://results.scobo.net/Loyola/Davey_Combined
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:58 pm

Thanks to everyone today for a great tournament, minus the impromptu fire drill and the delayed lunch [who would ever think a morning would finish early?]. A special thanks to my statskeeper, Nolan Winkler, and moderators Will Abraham, Dan Donohue, Jonah Greenthal, Nathan Hollinsaid, Sam Krc [that's not a typo], Christian Kreb, Matt Laird, Mike Laudermith, Jeff Price, Donal [that's not a typo, either] Terrell, Mike Verity, and Marcel Youkhna. Comments, compliments, and complaints all welcome, and yes, please do not discuss specific questions ANYWHERE until cleared to do so by NAQT.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Charley Pride » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:13 pm

David Riley wrote: welcme.


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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby David Riley » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:16 pm

fixed.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby garciaja » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:36 pm

Jacopo Robusti wrote:I'd love to know more about Champaign Centennial and this Chris Olsen.


Well, we're a first year team and our team did amazingly well today. Our team was very happy with the way the tournament was run, the moderating, and they especially liked the lunch. While the afternoon bracketing didn't advantage us, the players feel pretty good about their performance today. Chris is a sophomore and played in middle school. We'll have to come to more tournaments up north.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby styxman » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:46 am

garciaja wrote:
Jacopo Robusti wrote:I'd love to know more about Champaign Centennial and this Chris Olsen.


Well, we're a first year team and our team did amazingly well today. Our team was very happy with the way the tournament was run, the moderating, and they especially liked the lunch. While the afternoon bracketing didn't advantage us, the players feel pretty good about their performance today. Chris is a sophomore and played in middle school. We'll have to come to more tournaments up north.


Huskie Bowl has a spot open in the top division. We'd love to have you guys, and it's a bit shorter of a drive than up to Chicago. Plus, Trashtwostrophe!
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby Crazy Andy Watkins » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:31 am

Jacopo Robusti wrote:I'd love to know more about Champaign Centennial and this Chris Olsen.

Champaign Centennial hosted tournaments on 2009-2010 Illinois Sets A and B this past December. Their only other tournament in NAQT's database was Kickoff, where they lost to Quincy High, Bloomington, Springfield A, and Chatham Glenwood and beat Lincoln A. They managed 177ppg. No bonus stats or individual stats available.

They beat Bettendorf in the final of a tournament that looks like it was probably IHSA format here.
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Re: Loyola Davey and Goliath Throwdown IV (1/16/10)

Postby jonah » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:54 am

Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:
Jacopo Robusti wrote:I'd love to know more about Champaign Centennial and this Chris Olsen.
Champaign Centennial hosted tournaments on 2009-2010 Illinois Sets A and B this past December
This was their league tournament (it was just one, but they needed packets from both sets), and those original sets had been modified somewhat by me (for varsity) and a great deal by Tom Egan (for the frosh/soph).
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