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Can someone also e-mail me the packet? E-mail should be in the side-bar.

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I accidentally made the date 2/13 instead of 2/23. Can a moderator fix that please? EDIT: Thanks.

Done. --Mgmt.

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The University of Chicago will be hosting ACF Regionals on February 23, 2013. This is a regular difficulty tournament. I will be the TD for this tournament. You can contact me through the e-mail button on the sidebar. Location : This tournament will take place in Harper Memorial Library located at 1...

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Perhaps then that is a function of math tossups not correctly awarding knowledge. If math tossups require you to know more than 7 courses to understand when other questions require 2 courses of knowledge, then it's probably better to just pare down the extraneous hard math clues and answer lines. Ov...

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So what are the arguments against expansion of math? The two main ones I hear are: 1) math is not accessible, which I think is weak considering that physics and chemistry are equally accessible/inaccessible and 2) it's always been like this and if you want more math then just write more math, which...

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I'm thinking about a little of both. I feel that clue space in math is more robust than people think. The thing about math is that it builds upon itself a lot so even easy accessible answer lines like "continuity" can have a lot of good clues associated to it that spans many levels of math...

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So what are the arguments against expansion of math? The two main ones I hear are: 1) math is not accessible, which I think is weak considering that physics and chemistry are equally accessible/inaccessible and 2) it's always been like this and if you want more math then just write more math, which ...

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The University of Chicago would like to bring 6 teams.

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Yeah, well, being harsher isn't exactly good either. The idea is to be impartial or at least as impartial as possible.

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Selfish request: Would it be possible to move this back later so that Chicago can gather a decent number of teams. Classes start on the first of October for us.

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So has anything been resolved here? It seems QUARK, IFT, and Collegiate Novice are all being held around late September to early October, which I think is a pretty bad idea.

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I guess it's time I came clean.

I'll be editing this year's Chicago Open, which is being renamed the Steak and Shake Hunger/Quiz Bowl.

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Cheynem wrote:When will coach Borglum be on the "hot seat"--Valencia hasn't won a title in three years now...perhaps it's time for younger blood.

Let's just hope more Kelsons don't pop up.

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I'm really enjoying the aesthetic of the win-loss records. Each team beat all of the teams ranked lower than it and lost to all of the teams ranked ahead of them.

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There was a good discussion about mathematics in the ACF distribution topic starting here if you guys want to read through it. A lot of the points made there also apply to high school, and I won't rehash them here. Anyway, the conclusion we came to in that discussion was that math for the purposes o...

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Does this collection have a finite open subcover?

Also, this sounds like a great idea for a trash tournament. Paging Dallin Kelson.

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I think Jerry and Seth have brought forth good arguments, and I think I will personally rest my crusade for now having been rather convinced.

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I had a couple thoughts on math being a minor science as designated in the quizbowl distribution. I'm going to approach this by looking at the major sciences and see what characteristics they had that would put them in that category and then seeing if math has those same characteristics. Here's what...

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I don't think it's very productive to base arguments based upon on my subpar math education or my poor performances at quizbowl since none of my arguments about the under-representation of math in quizbowl hinge upon that. In fact, I'll be the first to tell you guys that I'm no expert on quizbowl ma...

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Wait so some people are talking about tossing up orogenies when others also say (or have said) that math and cs don't deserve a larger portion of the distribution... because there's not enough askable answers or it's somehow less important? I guess this is the appropriate thread to wonder why math ...

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Wait so some people are talking about tossing up orogenies when others also say (or have said) that math and cs don't deserve a larger portion of the distribution... because there's not enough askable answers or it's somehow less important? I guess this is the appropriate thread to wonder why math a...

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Out of curiosity, was there a tossup on Soulja Boy or the Game (the rapper) from 2008 or so? I'd like to see those.

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It might be useful if someone did a Southeast Quizbowl Calendar this year so we can keep track of these tournaments. I can't do it because I'm moving out of the Southeast (I wasn't good at keeping up either), but if someone (coach, student, or whatever) active in the area could start one up now tha...

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It might be useful if someone did a Southeast Quizbowl Calendar this year so we can keep track of these tournaments. I can't do it because I'm moving out of the Southeast (I wasn't good at keeping up either), but if someone (coach, student, or whatever) active in the area could start one up now that...

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That walkway at the Chicago Hyatt was one of the worst things I have ever had to deal with in a competition. You had to sprint to there from the main hotel to get to a match at times, and if you had a bye when your matches were there, it pretty much ensured that you couldn't go back to your room. I ...

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2) There's so much in history, literature, science, and other subjects that comes up that "normal high school students come close to covering in their classes". Luckily, the students at HSNCT aren't normal high school students, and the tournament distribution isn't intended to mirror the ...

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I think the computational math bonuses should be taken out. There wasn't enough time to reason out the math within the 5 seconds after the end of the question which was frustrating. Additionally, a lot of the bonuses seemed really hard. The one that stuck in my mind was the one on scalar fields wher...

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I thought the bonuses fluctuated pretty significantly in difficulty, but overall the set was pretty great. The playoff system seemed unfair to a lot of teams, but it's hard to find a better system for so many teams so I guess it's just how it is. Overall, I really enjoyed my last HSNCT. Also, the ve...

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Ransom Everglades probably had the hardest road to get to the playoffs. They passed through both Maggie Walker and State College and lost very close to Pensacola in the last game. They should probably be in the playoffs but the luck of the draw prevented them I guess.

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This is probably the nicest hotel I have ever stayed in.

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Not to derail this thread, but....ONLY NINE TEAMS?!!?!?! Last year, Matt Weiner and co. hosted an excellent tournament. This is one of the year's premiere events; where's Florida, South Carolina, and some of the other powerhouses? Is it finances? schedulng? Well, Florida didn't go last year, but we...

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The use of the not telling people how to post rule and trying to stop discussion rule have been applied so selectively that it almost always occurs when someone voices an unpopular opinion or when the person who is posting is someone who a lot of people don't like. John Gilbert's post is so minor co...

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Oh, I see. Thanks guys. This makes sense now.

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I'm a bit confused, are we not doing Swiss pairs anymore?

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Perhaps a good solution to the problem of resource allocation is to establish a date by which no high school teams can register. Then after that, it can open up to high school teams. That way, college teams will get an advantage in registration over high schools. Also, if there is a large enough num...

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I agree with Ryan here for the most part. I think that if high schoolers want to play higher then they should be allowed to do so. I feel that the getting your feelings hurt by being beaten by a high school team argument isn't very strong here because I don't think we should be making decisions base...

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Down. Sign me up.

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The gist of my argument is as follows: Teams are getting ridiculous amounts of powers. Powers are on the hardest parts of tossups and come earliest. More powers by teams indicates that they can get the hardest parts easier and earlier. If a set has too many powers, that means that the best teams ar...

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Whatever, dude. I've come in here to say my thing because I think this whole discussion has taken on a pretty insane tone, thanks in large part to you and your ridiculous claims and your terrible non-logic. You are welcome to continue the crusade to make high school quizbowl more difficult by furio...

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I can see both sides of this: on an Ohio A set tournament that had the top two teams in Ohio according to our polls and DCC, it just turned into a massive buzzer-race set, with lots of upsets because every other question was decided on speed as both teams would know the first one or two clues. I wi...

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It's a bit exaggerated, but when you get a hundred of powers in a tournament, it's not too far off. I hate wading into high school discussions because it's annoying to have to post long reams of evidence for the sole purpose of disabusing people of absurd opinions that they hold by virtue of their ...

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I want to focus on another aspect of this argument that I find to be particularly pernicious, which is that easier sets are not "real enough" to distinguish between high end teams, which was one of William's criticisms of LIST. I disagree with this completely. At a certain level of compet...

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I want to focus on another aspect of this argument that I find to be particularly pernicious, which is that easier sets are not "real enough" to distinguish between high end teams, which was one of William's criticisms of LIST. I disagree with this completely. At a certain level of compet...

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I'm going to UChicago where I'll do stuff.

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This didn't really pan out last year probably due to lack of organization, but I think it would be fun if the quizbowl community could get together and do something fun together. This could be before or after a side event, or it could be a thing of its own. Anyway, what does everyone think of a gath...

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CAC was last week. Escambia county won Division I. Leon county won Division II. Suwannee won Division III. Complete results can be found here.

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For those of you who think the point of Quiz Bowl is to win seriously need to get a psychological evaluation. That took longer than I expected but not so long as I'd hoped. Welcome to the reason why your team never wins anything and never will. I had resolved myself to leave this thread alone. And,...

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Are you people just too polite to object strenuously when bullshit like this happens at a tournament? Maybe that's a problem. Well, this is just laughable. The problems are the tournaments themselves and not our genteel Southern courtesy. While what happened at NGCSU should never be done again and ...

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People have already mentioned before what I was going to say. PPB and PPG are better metrics to use at tiebreakers than that formula for reasons explicated above by Jerry and others (essentially, it's a terrible, terrible way to compare teams. Also, FIRST is based on a much different system than qui...

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As a suggestion, you could use tinychat to do the tryouts. All you need is a microphone (in built ones usually don't give very quality), and you can just say the tossups rather than pasting them out (type buzz to buzz and answer by typing answer etc). This makes it more like a real tryout, quicker, ...

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